How Marvel & Sony are Setting Up Spider-Man’s MCU Endgame! (Nerdist News w/ Amy Vorpahl)
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How Marvel & Sony are Setting Up Spider-Man’s MCU Endgame! (Nerdist News w/ Amy Vorpahl)


– How Sony and Marvel are setting up Spider-Man’s MCU endgame. Earlier this summer, Marvel
fans were left weeping when Tom Holland’s Spider-Man
was unceremoniously dumped from the Marvel Cinematic Universe after Sony, who owns the
film rights to Spider-Man and Disney-controlled Marvel Studios couldn’t come to a deal that
would allow the wall-crawler to play in the MCU sandbox. However, last week, those tears of sadness became tears of joy when
Sony and Disney made nice and announced that the
web-head would return to the MCU for two more movies. The third in his stand alone series that started with Spider-Man: Homecoming and an unspecified future Marvel film. While it was nice to see two corporations coming together for the
sake of their audiences, and the promise of billion dollar paydays, it became clear that this
would be a way to give fans some closure and allow
Peter Parker to bow out of the MCU gracefully to go
spend time with his new family of goo monsters and living vampires. The last we’d seen of
Spidey on the big screen was the cliffhanger
ending to Far From Home, and now that we know that this storyline is going to be wrapped up in
the third Spider-Man solo film, set to release in 2021,
Sony’s path moving forward on how to get Spider-Man to jump universes is becoming more and more clear. The first big piece of evidence comes from Marvel Studios president,
Kevin Feige himself. Regarding the web-head’s
return, he said this: “I am thrilled that
Spidey’s journey in the MCU “will continue, and I and
all of us at Marvel Studios “are very excited that we
get to keep working on it.” He went on to say, “He also happens “to be the only hero with the superpower “to cross cinematic universes, so as Sony “continues to develop
their own Spidey-verse, “you never know what surprises
the future might hold.” Let’s peel back the layers
of what was said here. One, this is reconfirmation that the MCU and Sony’s universe of Marvel characters are two separate universes. Two, Spider-Man will be leaving the MCU for the Sony universe. Three, the door is left
open for Spider-Man to swing back in the
Marvel Cinematic Universe if the stars align. Now, with the universe hop confirmed, how could this take place? Both sides of this deal
want this to be done in a satisfying way
that keeps fans on board with both the characters and
their continuing stories. And like we said before,
billions of dollars are at stake. Well, the answer might’ve been hidden under our noses this whole time. The day before Sony and
Marvel publicly kissed and made up, Sony announced
that they would be making a Madame Web solo flick as
part of their Sony universe of Marvel characters. Now, if you haven’t
pulled out your long boxes in awhile, Madame Web
was introduced in 1980 in the Amazing Spider-Man issue 210 as a sometimes ally to Peter Parker. While her powers are psychic in nature and include things like
precognition and clairvoyance, the ’90s animated Spider-Man series gave her one new power
that was afterwards added to her comic book appearances, as well. The ability to cross
universes and realities. Obviously, you can see
where we’re going with this. Wow, what an incredibly useful power for someone to have in this situation where we need Spider-Man to jump from one universe to another. The timing of the two
announcements is too perfect to be a coincidence. Plus, having two more
MCU films for Spider-Man to appear in gives them enough runway to make the change painless and earned. It basically would be Spider-Man’s endgame for the MCU, allowing him to say goodbye, but still leave the door
open for later appearances if Sony and Marvel decide
they like more money than just a lot of money. Kind of similar to how Iron Man’s endgame in Avengers: Endgame
didn’t really end his game in the MCU as RDJ is expected to be seen in the upcoming Black Widow film, which ironically enough
is Black Widow’s endgame. However, one question we have when/if the inevitable universe
switch happens, what happens to Ned Leeds, Aunt May,
and the rest of the gang? They lived through the Snap and the Blip on the MCU’s side, do they also get sucked into the Sony-verse? We’re definitely interested
in seeing how the two sides handle the switcheroo. And as we speculated last
week, there’s still a chance that the MCU won’t be without its own Friendly
Neighborhood Spider-Man, even with the departure of Parker. With Homecoming teasing out Miles Morales, we could see a world where,
like his comic book counterpart, Miles is inspired to take
up the old web-shooters following the
death/disappearance of Peter. Animated films like Into
the Spider-Verse aside, Sony is going to have their hands full with Tom Holland’s Spider-Man
and having Miles Morales as a live-action Spider-Man alongside a live-action Peter
Parker might be too much for the Sony audiences. But since Miles’s rights
also live with Sony, that feels like a Sony-Disney
deal for another day. But what do you folks think? Are you glad that
Spider-Man’s run in the MCU will have a satisfying conclusion? Are you excited for him to join the rest of his Spider characters
in Sony’s universe of Marvel characters? And do you think the key
to it all is Madame Web? Let’s discuss. Thanks for watching, if
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92 Comments

  • Ayanle Volg

    Why just why this is real low even for Sony and marvel look we love to have spider man in the mcu and at first sony had two spider men In their universe but don’t just let tom Holland In the mcu at the first of civil war and they don’t not a thing about it they just make us very sad and the mcu needs him I need the world needs him we all do

  • Fett, Boba Fett

    MCU Clone Saga would be preeeeeetty sweet if you ask me. I don't think Sony has the rights to Ben Reilly or Kaine 👀

  • Ben Kenobi

    I call it now, have it be known, that I! Ben kenobi told the story of the 3rd spider man story for the movie.

    It goes like this peter “dies” because everyone comes after him after his secret identity has being told to the world so villains comes after him just for him to be teleport to another universe to start a new. Leaving his friends and family behind because they all died

  • Moxar

    So what you are saying is just after spidermans identity is given away at the end of his latest solo film in the MCU the opportunity for him to jump to the SUMC for a fresh start and to keep everything he loves just happens to present itself over the course of the next two movies?
    That sounds like one hell of a coincidence to me.

  • Samurai Forever91

    One likely idea of the switch is like how miles from the ultimate universe to the prime universe. Molecule man was able to move miles and his family and friends to the main earth using his cosmic powers.

  • Jason Gallegos

    Wait. are you saying that MJ is going to disapear ala the cartoon, and we are gonna get a version of the finale of the cartoon where he finds MJ in a separate universe after Sony does a live action version of into the spider verse?

  • Ikthus W

    Sony is being stupid. This is their opportunity to gain more funds for other movies. Sony should really think about it. What a dumb move. 😢

  • Joseph Dan

    No miles because there is already three spider-man in live action and they are tom holland, Toby Maguire, and Andrew Garfield. Sony should do something with all three of them. I prefer Michelle Jones become spider-woman and Emma stone's Gwen Stacey become ghost spider/spider gwen. Miles should have brand new spider name that is original and creative. I don't like copycats.

  • STARSEED EVOLUTION

    Why are we trying to manifest him to leave again… as far as I’m concerned he’s staying until he’s old ahaha..

  • frank welby

    why not make this deal, tom stays as spiderman in the mcu and sony starts a new spiderman that we all want to see, miles morales.

  • volksdude1970

    I want to see more of Miles Morales. I've always just assumed he was a "Black Peter Parker", and never really got into it. After watching Spider-verse, I was happily proven wrong. I'm eager to learn more about how unique his powers are and more about his universe, so heck yeah to a live action Miles movie!

    Just as long as we get a Deadpool crossover with Spidey at some point.

  • stark tony

    Are Hollywood reporter by any chance? Unlike Variety and Deadline, the Hollywood reporter has been mired in negotiations between Sony and Disney. I was miserable because I didn't get any sources of renegotiation. So the first thing Hollywood reporters can do is preoccupy the reasoning that they will be parting later. The Hollywood reporter's article is just extrapolating Kevin's entrance and the Madam Web.

  • Cube Brik

    but… spider-man has been crossing reality's for ages… into the spider verse confirmed their are… infinite spider-men… why cant we keep Tom… and Sony just make another spider-man… it's been explored over and over now that spider-man has the power todo this… they have more than one spider-man as it is with into the spider verse right? Lots and lots of spiders

  • Buddah Kris

    Ffs.. THAT DOESN'T WORK!! The people know about the Avengers and the blip and it happened in their universe. Fans aren't just going to take the "other universe" crap unless he goes to live in another universe.

  • Kronen Baxter

    That Feige Pascal interview footage has to be the most overused footage ever. All these types of vids love the shit out that.

  • Ashton Claire

    My hope is that before these new movies come out someone finally buys Sony and Spiderman rights revert back to Marvel. Crossing all my fingers.

  • Shikha Jain

    Who even asked for movies like Morbius and Madame Web? Every studio just wants to copy mcu now and make a ton of money. But this is not good for movies in general

  • seneca savoie

    Why would you make a whole movie about Madam Web, who is literally just a quest-giver, when Spiderverse already established a mechanism for doing this in literally the first act of the movie?

  • Ny'Geal

    Am I the only one who thinks “Endgame” sounds a bit too final, maybe conclusion or arc finale. Just fits better since spidey
    Isn’t dying (hopefully)

  • Accelerator

    I do want spiderman to stay in the mcu but i guess we all knew it would end this way but at least hell get to be in a few new movies spiderman 3 and an upcoming avengers movie at some point before crossing over back to sony but i will miss that wall crawler never forget spiderman never forget

  • Tre'Michael Gilbert

    I don't believe this BS do you think Sony will do it again breaking up spiderman from the mcu and lose money for their stupid universe. Yeah they won't. But if they do Disney can just buy spiderman back buy using the money from SPIDERMAN 3🤣🤣🤣🤣😁😁

  • Gracie Iezzi

    I think Tom Holland/Spider-Man will remain in the mcu & Sony. Spider-Man is too important to just cut out of the MCU (especially since Disney is so $ hungry) and he could be a part of the venom series at the same time

  • ranwolf76

    For me, the easiest, and least likely, solution is to introduce Ben Reilly somehow and one of the studios use him and the other use Peter.

  • sarosh ENCORE

    I want a different Spider-man on Sony's universe. Not funny Spider-man from MCU. But a darker Spider-man. Oh, I miss Garfield 😕😘

  • Mark L

    Am I the only one that finds Amy Pascal's face EXTREMELY punchable? Lol

    I mean… seriously… when she smiles, she looks like she's already being punched by an invisible person… like that dude from the old "bitter beer face" commercials lol

  • iiARCHii

    I like how people are saying,”oH sPiDeRmAn iS bEiNg WrItTeN oUt iN tHe ThIrD mOvIe FrOm ThE mCu.” Disney is high on Spider-Man and the team ups he can do with other characters, and tbh, without really forcing it, Spider-Man HAS become the face of the MCU, Captain Marvel was slatted for that buuuuuut think (and from articles/rumors) that they aren’t high on Captain Marvel to be the face of the MCU anymore. Listen, I don’t have insider sources, I don’t have an all seeing crystal ball, all I DO KNOW is that as long as Sony Japan OR the heads of Disney corporate don’t fuck up the deal again (or any possible future deals) and LEAVE IT to the studio heads (WHICH BOTH STUDIOS WANT TO WORK TOGETHER) then we will keep getting this shared universe/sharing agreement between Sony and Disney.

  • Iron Fan 3000

    They should introduce the Sinister six in the upcoming non-spiderman movie and then make them the main villan in the third spider man film where he will get a really satisfying ending and then he will move in the sonyverse.

  • Armin Tabari

    I say anyone who want spider back to mcu keep protesting on disney and sony and sign the petition and do not pay tickets and anything to morbiuse,venom 2 and other sony spidys such as spider man ps4 sequel,keep protesting to mcu and sony .send my message to everyone.
    #SaveSpiderMan

  • George Moore

    5 years and then sony is likely getting bought out by either amazon or apple. If that's the case marvel properties return back to marvel.

  • Mega Geek6807

    This is not happening, stop spreading misinformation. There is no "endgame" for Spidey in the MCU just like how they said "the door is closed" when it wasn't actually closed. Tom Holland will be playing two different Spider-Men across both universes.

  • Ian Schank

    Disney’s real plan is just to buy themselves some more time until they can acquire Sony and get spidey back for real

  • Dualtone

    You're making a lot of assumptions, but to answer the question: I don't see how they could conclude Peter's arc in just two more movies. Compared to other characters in the MCU, it just doesn't feel like enough time, not to mention the rest of the cast. What's gonna happen with them? Are they gonna leave their homes and families behind too? Really? Constantly juggling the character back and forth, while definitely possible, doesn't seem like a very good storytelling decision and would probably result in his characterization being inconsistent (which would detract from a lot of the enjoyment of his story).

    Ultimately I think we oughta wait and see how things play out before jumping to conclusions.

  • I'm Him!!!

    I hope the end involves putting the over use Peter parker version of spiderman to rest for awhile.. Damn Sony it's time to focus on different version of spiderman like Miles Morales or Gwen..

  • ArchOfWinter

    Why does the Sony-verse and MCU has to be a different universe? Why can't they just be two separate lines of story in the same universe like how the Marvel Netflix shows exists, but they and the movies don't interact?
    The Sony movies and MCU movies can just exists without confirming or denying that they are in the same or separate universes. That makes future crossovers basically seamless without any convoluted writing to justify anything.

  • Rithik Ramesh

    AMY VORPAHL I need tell something Spider-Man came back to MCU and I know it to you telling about Spider-Man civil war has been not going to be changed as winner detail called known as Spiderman Sony maun going to write output in Venom movie but I am where is test single to not put Venom movie in Spider-Man Venom 2 movie sincerely Venom will look out Spider-Man out with his tongue it's very dangerous that's why I tell right to Sony in Captain America civil war your telling about this Spider-Man is back NMC with Sony and marvel and don't put Spider-Man in MC you because my name is going to come fighting with Carnage and venom and Spider-Man don't put Sony pictures but Sony because you're saying only I write you have to put Spider-Man in Sony just kidding you sorry ok

  • Rithik Ramesh

    Tell to Marvel the prosperity the script of this Avenger endgame is not good because it's very good and think so Avenger end game and I want in I need to tell you why did you put Spider-Man from the other universe cheap products pendli came to our universe After Earth 616 there was Spider-Man into spider verse the first one ever seen that is why Spider-Man Homecoming address in the first premier and II premier Highway CNET why did you put spider going into Spider-Man for from home that's why I am telling the previous first one is very nice Spider-Man Homecoming that's why I am telling that Avenger Infinity war is very nice the first seen in the second scene I don't like because vi Sony didn't put Spider-Man the actual scene tell Marvel don't put spider gwen in Spider-Man come home don't make again spoiler reviews and other things is going to come with Spider-Man come home don't make spoil please watching your don't make spoiler reviews and also tell to Marvel and mcu and Marvel and Sony prostration for a Sony

  • Jeff Hardie

    With the MCU going cosmic, building new teams and introducing a swag of new heroes and villains, I think it makes sense for Spidey to do his own thing for a while and I have no doubt that he’ll be back for the next big team up or crossover event, just like the way Marvel brought him in for the Infinity saga. In the meantime, it’ll be cool to see what he gets up to next.

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