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Since the invention of the internet 30 years ago, network technology has connected us in increasingly intimate ways. Today, the world is literally at our fingertips through our phones. ‘We do see the phone as bit of an extension of ourselves. This is going to be a really enduring technology to have a small screen with you at all times.’ ‘The immediacy of connection has radically impacted life in the 21st century. Especially when is comes to Sex and Love. ‘In the last 5 years a good third of relationships start from online dating if not more.’ ‘There’s a totally new generation of people who are just coming into dating now and they do not give a shit about those rules.’ It’s estimated that by 2040, 70% of all couples will have met online. And today there are over 30 million people on dating apps, all searching for love and orgasms one swipe at a time. ‘Remember these sites are a business, these apps are in the money making business. Of course they’re going to try to make a whole ton of cash off of this, because what’s monetized is visibility.’ Dating apps have changed the way we meet, the way we date, and the way we fuck. ‘The biggest online dating sites have only been around for several years. We dont really know in the long term what’s going to happen.’ Social change and technological innovation are always met with resistance. From the invention of the birth control pill, to the internet porn boom, to dating apps. It’s clear when sex and tech mix, the result is social turmoil. Critics claim dating apps, and the rise of the hookup culture for catalyzing the
dealing apocalypse and the death of courtship itself. With all this in mind I
decided to try out a few dating apps myself and meet their inventors. To determine whether the
mobile love industry has truly sparked a dating Armageddon or whether this is a dating revolution. We’re in LA right now, we’re headed
towards the beach to meet Julie Spira. She’s a cyber dating expert and she runs something called mobile dating boot camp; where she basically beats people’s dating profiles into shape. She saves people from themselves basically. I hope she can help me, you know swipe with success. Her book talks about the fact that she was one of the really early users of internet dating. So like in 1994, she was on early dating sites before people even really knew what the internet was. So she’s been doing this for like 20 years. ‘Online dating actually goes way back to lonely hearts ads, back in the 1700s And that’s when people originally started posting these very short profiles and people would say things like I prefer a
shapely ankle or I’m worth this much money, and this one’s the genesis of
a person self articulating in a short way what they thought they could offer to somebody else. What should I select about my identity that I want
other people to know first and know as a signal of how attractive I could be to
them. ‘You want to help me with my profile because I think i need help.’ ‘OMG i would love to help you with your profile.’ ‘Let me show you my tinder profile, i’ve only been on tinder for a few weeks…. ‘Wow your first profile is very sexy, so what are you looking for?’ ‘Everyone’s always looking to meet someone they really
like right? But I’m ok with not liking someone that much if they’re really hot.’ ‘Ok so I’m a writer, 5 foot 9…. So basically you’re not saying very much. So someone’s gonna love that photo, and then they’ve got to basically look at your additional shots. Another sofa shot, hmm…if I’m a guy I’m gonna think this girl is hot in bed. And the party shot with the friends….okay that one i think needs to go. The photobooth shot, you got that little kissy thing, so guys are gonna want to pucker up and kiss you alright. So creating a profile’s a really modern invention, it’s not something natural for people. The creation of a profile actually
affects the way people see themselves. ‘ So find a photo from here that you like.’ ‘This is a keychain that a friend got for me, it’s says slut on it’. ‘That cannot be your primary tinder profile shot, slutever, slut, you’re saying on your….. I know its your brand and you say you’re being authentic, and genuine and you look very sultry like
you look like you just have sex or you’re just getting ready to have sex,
but at the end of the day you get these big breasts and it says slutever and we know that’s your brand but guys don’t know that. They’re gonna be swiping right, swiping right, here’s a girl calling herself a slut. Yeah yeah, I’m gonna get, I’m gonna get lucky tonight. ‘Right and then…..OK I’m just and that’s bad, that’s bad. Unless it’s what you want. ‘I guess my attitudes towards sex and dating are pretty evident. I mean I go by the moniker slutever and I write a progressive sex blog.’ ‘I think you should try and see if you can find something from one of these because …um red, colour of blood, passion romance…if we could crop the guys out of it, I happen to like that picture. Yes it’s a match!’ ‘So here’s the deal, now that you have a match on him rather than keep playing, be proactive! Click send message. ‘Ok what should i say?’ My tinder match Jamie wants to meet up that evening. ‘So you’re going to be filming your date tonight, so your date knows that?’ Now that my profile has been given a makeover by a cyber dating professional, i was ready for my first date via tinder. So i invited him out for a few drinks in Venice. One of the basic things we know about relationships is that people like to be compatible. So now different apps look for different kinds of similarity. They drive you towards what they think is a
specifically happy relationship with their vision of compatibility. ‘Hey nice to meet you’. ‘Nice to meet you too’. ‘What’s up?’ ‘This sounded fun so…different’ ‘Yeah well, do you go on tinder dates a lot?’ ‘Yeah’. ‘Do you think tinder’s destroying romance?’ ‘Yeah 100%. You know there’ll be somebody that’s on
there that I wanna talk to, and we have great conversation and then 5, 10 other girls come on there and all the sudden I start talking to them randomly, then I forget that the person’s on there. When you get a lot of the basics out of the way before you even meet up, when you guys meet up it’s like you already have this kind of establish connection but
you haven’t had the physical connection of being around each other that’s developed so like the little, small nuances of, you know just the body language and stuff like that which is very important which you, you end up missing out on by interacting complete throught an application.’ ‘Could just texting someone for a few hours be the same as running into someone at a bar, getting along with them really well and they just leaving with your
friends and just being like I’m disconnection you know I mean, just a
fleeting moment in the world. ‘I think the reason why it’s killing a little bit
because it’s so much easier whereas meeting somebody at a bar, meeting somebody at a coffee shop or restaurant or anywhere it’s a little more, there’s more tension, you know what i mean, because its a face-to-face interaction and the opportunity for rejections there
versus swiping right on somebody or swiping you know, if you both swipe right then there’s the connections are made for you there’s not that awkwardness is already built up.’ ‘Now tInders just much more about user choice and about
reciprocity. What tinder does is say you know you cannot contact me unless I also agree to be interested in you. ‘I went to this dating coach, and she told me that if it was successful that we should make a plan of when we’re gonna hangout again. ‘Ok, well we can go like somewhere else’. ‘Yeah we could do that’. After my date, I was looking forward to meeting with the tinder gods, who facilitated all this to begin with. We’re here in LA, at Tinder, aka the Mecca of dating apps. And we’re going to go upstairs and talk to the creator, whether his app is a response to the dating apocalypse or back to the dating revolution. Technology particularly and start
thinking more about how data about us is created and how it’s shuffled around. I
think tinder actually cracked that nut. Tinder amasses volumes of data, with over 26 million matches per day, it’s one of the most use social applications in the
world. But what do all these data even do? Is it just another way to make money or have they actually
discovered an algorithm for love? Hoping to learn what Tinder does with these figures, i sat down with Dan Gould the VP of technology at Tinder. ‘What about the data you collect? Um is there anything that’s really surprised you? Or patterns that
you thought were strange?’ ‘If you look at straight users, you can look at men
swiping on women, and it turns out that you plot the frequency they swipe right
person to person and it looks exactly like a bell curve. Meaning men are incredibly simple, they’re predictable you can understand the behavior.’ ‘We knew that’. ‘Then you do you do the exact same plot and you do that for women swiping on men and it turns out that it doesn’t look at all like a bell curve, it’s a
very skewed plot. It’s much harder to predict which men, women will Swipe on than which women, men will swipe on. What you have is the choice, the chance to meet people who are really right for you. Who you could build a much better life with and I think that’s gonna change all of society that people start to find the
right people for that. We’ve seen that actually, well years ago ago that divorce rate went way up it’s actually started to now decline and trail off….and I wonder if a
lot of that’s to do with things like Tinder. ‘What surprised me the most about
mobile dating was what became monetized. what’s monetized is visibility so in a
way, we’re kind of like advertisers for each other now. Sean Rad is the co-founder,
president and returning CEO of Tinder and admittedly uses the app himself. Dating apps’ a multi-billion dollar industry, what do you think about the commercialization of love? Do you ever get any weird feelings about that? I think so much, so many industries are about the commercialization of love. When you’re single what you are looking for is that connection. Everything you do, your career ,where you go out, everything, there’s this undertone of wanting to find somebody to connect with, so many industries indirectly or touching on
that need and that desire to connect. Umm Tinder’s directly touching on it. ‘Are we experiencing a sexual revolution now? Like is thisthe sixties all over again in a different digital way?’ ‘When you look at a longer-term horizon, you know people of all society changes, every time there is
a change and there’s a counter-culture, there’s an enemy. we got so many people that’s sort of embraced Tinder and love Tinder and see it at a forefront of a very
positive change and then we have people who are afraid of change.’ ‘In the past you’ve talked about how you feel like eventually the phone will just be an extension of your body’, ‘yeah, yeah I think the phone or technology will enhance how we interact with the real world. Tinder already does that, so I think there’s you know….we’re pulling in information from the people around you and we’re giving you an interface to interact that information that you can’t get without technology and I think you’ll see that is a theme over the coming
years and decades I think there will be a convergence between like how we interface with life and technology sort of having the place in what we do’. I came out, you know 17 odd years ago and I can tell you the rapid evolution of technologies on the whole, I think a real boon for gay people. So in a way dating apps are part of this shift towards a normalization of gay people and that normalization makes people feel validated, makes them feel
inclusive and it makes them feel that they’re not an other and yeah that’s
a really positive development. I mean we’ve come a long way in the last twenty years, and the internet I’m sure has had a huge part to play in that. We’re here in San Francisco at the office of HER which is one of the biggest dating apps for LGBTQ women in the world. We’re gonna go talk to the creator about hooking up and finding love through your phone. ‘Do you think that for gay people outside of cities where there’s a really accepted gay community that you know getting apps and using your phone’s to meet people makes dating safer? ‘We have countless stories of users, who lives in like the middle of nowhere in america and when they were questioning their sexuality
they used to have to like take months or years to build up the confidence to book a motel for the night, to go stay in the city, to go to a gay night for the
first time ever by themselves to see if they might actually be able to meet
someone. It’s awful that it takes that long just to be able to try and understand
something about yourself and i think that’s the biggest advantage that you can get from apps, is that you can talk to someone immediately and you start building, understanding the relationship so much faster. There also an argument that safety comes in numbers, and the more people you meet, the more like safer you feel on these things. A lot of people now are successfully able to find a match through online dating in a way that you put
almost never do offline. Especially for a lot of minority groups, this
ability to search for certain kinds of people online it’s an absolute boon to
their relationship. After spending a day swiping on HER, I
finally match with Jolene, a party promoter who took me to a queer bar in the Castro. ‘Can you find love through a dating app?’ ‘Absolutely, if you want it you can have it.’ ‘Evolution is definitely moving forward.’ ‘And people are going on real dates through the app.’ ‘They are. What do you mean by real dates?’ ‘What’s a real date?’ ‘That’s a good question’. ‘Is this not a date right now?’ ‘I think we’re on a date’. ‘Yeah i think so’. There’s so much moralistic in the media now, like traditional dating, like should we all just get drunk and do a shots and meet at a bar, like that’s somehow better…ten years from now the definition of what traditional dating as well can be completely different. This is like the sexual revolution all over again. Absolutely, because ultimately going on these apps, all the people that download the apps, want to meet somebody. Despite Tinders’ domination of the dating app market and the growing options and LGBTQ dating apps, there’s a new app
that’s rapidly growing in popularity. Born in France, Happn is the hopeless romantic of dating apps. Using location tracking to match users with people they cross paths with throughout their day. Happn has quickly expanded to three million users around the world. Here we are at the most romantic place on earth, the Eiffel tower. I got a connection. There’s something about Happen that feels more authentic, you know the idea that maybe you pass someone on the way to work every single day and never notice each other
because you’re starring at your phones or whatever, so it says for example like you and Pierre crossed paths at 2 p.m. and if you both like each other then you can talk. It’s very romantic, its sort of fitting that it started here in Paris. Part of the reason that dating apps work is because they use location.
? has this phrase that the internet reconfigures accessibility, who you can access and how you can access them. Basic human needs especially needs
for companionship, needs to be validated, needs to be loved, these are really
enduring needs that technology has not changed yet. ‘Waiting around for love’. Mobile apps don’t change basic human needs, a gadget in your pocket is not going to change that basic human need, we’re wired for that. We’re here at the Happn HQ and we’re about to go in and talk to Didier one of the founders of the app. It launched about a year ago and it’s still expanding. And its expanding really fast. There’s over six million users and are getting an additional million users every month so it’s one of the fastest expanding dating apps, and i wanna know why he thinks that is. Decided to start Happn around two years ago and in fact the main concern for us was that the dating websites or apps were too virtual and we wanted to bring back the real world into the dating space, will be to the magic of life when you walk in the street and suddenly you meet someone and there is something which is happening. Things can happen everywhere, it’s more and more difficult for the people to meet each other in big cities so happen when you see your timeline this is the story of your life through the
people you have encountered and also you will keep the memory of all the people you have encounter. Every time you cross paths with someone, you can have a story which is not necessarily a love or sex story, ok it’s just meeting the other
ones. ‘It sort of makes sense that you know the most poetic of dating app
started in Paris don’t think you think?’ Ah of course French are the best lovers in the world. Happn was able to build an app on the
notion of classic French Romance, so I was feeling hopeful in the city of lights. It totally Happn for me. I crossed paths with an entrepreneur named Pierre. He asked me to meet at a posh restaurant in the six arrondissement, it was dimly lit, romantic and honestly a bit creepy. People always want that first moment to be a magical moment of some sort and clicking on someone’s thumbnail or swiping right doesn’t inspire a lot of romance. ‘I’m nervous, i usually take a shot before I go on dates but I forgot. I don’t know, i don’t know what to expect, i mean that’s the thing about meeting someone on an app. I have high hopes. ‘Do you think that meeting through an app is like less authentic or less good than meeting in real life?’ But you think that because you have access to so many girls or guys through the apps, you think
makes people less likely to actually settle down and be in a relationship? Do you usually sleep with girls on the first date? But why for the girl? Why is it important for a girl not to sleep on the first date? Rather than the guy? yeah ‘So what your like opening line? So you’re lying? That’s not good, that’s bad. The idea of dating apps is that it’s leveling the playing field. And you don’t have to be manipulative with people, you can say …. ‘That’s a good point’. You know people say that dating apps cause sex addiction and I don’t think that’s true…. ‘Yeah that’s true oh like the first time it’s so exciting. Do you think that the sex is any different that you have through apps than it is with someone you meet in real life? But there’s an interesting take
away from dating apps because you have there’s more competition now you have to be better at everything. Maybe it’s like everyone’s game is being upped Dinner was good, it was fine, I thought he was nice and we had a good conversation but he had a little bit of a sexual double standard which is not
something that I find attractive at all but I did enjoy the meal. The sexual double standard is not about sexual practices, it’s about social practices. It’s about how people communicate their sexual lives to others. You can be very sexually active and have most of your
personal network not know it all. Calling a woman a slut is a way of
shaming her within a social group that social group is no longer relevant to
dating, it’s just saying you guys aren’t relevant anymore. Your judgment of me is not relevant
anymore. The most controversial and perhaps the most progressive of all dating apps is based in London. ‘Do you think our generation’s doomed because we all fucking through dating apps?’ ‘Yeah i think its a bad thing to be honest.’ So do you use dating apps? ‘Yeah, i use Tinder, i just recently joined there. Have you ever met anyone on it? Umm…i’ve never actually gone on a Tinder date, no. You need to spend more time on the app. Yeah, i clearly need to get swiping. What’s your stance on dating apps? What are your weird Tinder experiences? It wasn’t a catfish but it’s almost like
a catfish, her face was the same but she was really really short. So i’m here in London, we’re about to go meet Deemo, the creator of 3rndr, which has been
dubbed as the notorious threesome app and has got lot of sensational press. Apparently he’s somewhat of a character, he’s only 25 years old , he doesn’t work out of an office he works out of a park, he seem sort of like a running gun all over the place crazy so this should be really interesting. ‘So why did you start 3rndr?’ ‘My girlfriend had this feeling for a
girl and she wasn’t feeling comfortable she even wrote me a letter, how she felt about it. I was like there’s nothing wrong with it, you should not be worried about this stuff. So I decided to make this thing to sort of proof that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the way she feels
about people. ‘Sounds like you created 3rndr as a love letter to your
girlfriend to prove to her that there’s nothing wrong with being bisexual’. ‘Yeah yeah yeah’. I said there is that there must be a
place where people can talk open about stuff without being called weirdos, even if they’re weird, weird should not be a bad word. We don’t target girls, we don’t target men, it’s just open and whoever goes there goes there. I believe there should be a space
where these people should thrive. So one of the things that we found in online dating and that’s the shift towards networked individualism, we express ourselves as single individuals and connect to single other individuals. You can search for all sorts of very specific kinds of people, someone might be interested in people that are mainly tall or short, someone that is very extroverted or into a specific kind
of music. You just might not find that sort of person in your social network
but you may be able to search for them and use them as a category instead. ‘I
wanna set up a date for 3rndr tonight if possible, umm can you help me?

100 Comments

  • Brdaley E

    These apps are marriage killers. People start looking at one some idiot says is compatibility Like Myers and brigs and then start to compare and look for the incompatibility in their mate with their stupid INF crap and decide they are not compatible, so they start looking for what the app says they are compatible with and move on.

  • Larry Long

    Consider this everyone. You are the last generation. You might think your going to bed with a female, But they might be a male right? Oh, Your a Transgender. Then it doesn't matter? What about the people who are just regular normal everyday people? And if your just a normal regular person, Just how do you date these days? I would say that with Herpes and Aids out there. The risk have to out weigh everything.

  • scottbucko

    Lady your voice fry is discussing..You sound like a snotty 14 year old. Very unprofessional. stop spreading this to more copycats like you.

  • Emiko Niwa

    The sexuality of the "journalist" made me feel alien. It felt like "How to succeed with Tinder." Instead of a robust review of the social impact of the short and long term mobile dating industry.

  • Tim Drake-Wayne

    I inhaled so quick at that b roll of a tiny kitten in the gay guys’ apartment that I nearly choked.

  • D Man

    I think its a nightmare for men, you have to become this guy who is great at taking photos. It's really hard too because women have so many more options that its very hard for a woman not to just turn into an arrogant slapper that treats most mean badly. What about tinder blocking matches or silent blocks of messages to get people to buy upgrades. Privacy abuse. Facial recognition using dating pictures. Spying on people's conversations in Tinder. Maybe to video speed dating or someday VR rooms to chat and play games. Women have so many offers that many men get ignored with just a few guys with good pictures banging all the women. Maybe limit women to 3 matches until they decide to communicate or unmatch. Tinder is abusive for men at this stage

  • Gabriela Jończyk

    This Co-founder is on Tinder from the biginning of the app, so that's proof that it doesn't work…

  • Christopher Ray Hunnicutt

    “… and, the way we fuck.” Sometimes, I can’t STAND how VICE approaches reporting with their version of journalistic integrity.

  • unforseenconsequense

    The host is annoying and I feel like being a girl that looks good means she already won tinder, I would much prefer a different host, and the notion of finding love on tinder is not due to tinder I don't think, it's due to people trying lots

  • Bulldozer

    So she calls herself slut, uses sex on her profile pictures (until the coach removed them) and THEN blames the French guy for having a double standard.

  • Crissa Hope

    I gave up on online dating due to the fact that men just were not interested in going out on dates or anything serious. I also got tired of facebook online dating.

  • philip palazola

    You have to be great looking to have any success at online dating. She even said it herself " I'm okay with not liking someone that much if they're really hot."

  • Fer Crow

    A girl's online dating profile doesn't even need work, just post photos and even of you're ugly, guys will over saturate your inbox

  • Bianca Baea

    Wow, how crazy is this shift, We virtually exist differently now compared to 10 years ago. I personally have a bit of anxiety dating these days especially when I first get out of relationships, Feels like there is yet another new way of finding your next beau and quite frankly I'm over it. I was just talking to my therapist at The Susan block Institute about this and it has been such a great way of dealing with my frustration and also helps me with keeping an open mind and exploring this dating world in a way it best fits me. I definitely recommend their services I think their number is I-626-46I-5950

  • Charlie O'Connor

    This girl’s shamelessly American trample through even trivial French words are a trashy sort of hot. For our second date, I could definitely see myself romantically walking her to Planned Parenthood to treat her snatch to a power wash pill after busting on all the walls.

  • Richard

    23:15 find it funny how the woman says she uses tinder but hasn’t actually met anyone or gone on any dates it just goes to show that a lot of women use dating sites and apps for entertainment and confidence boosting rather than having any intention of meeting someone.

  • Loro L

    There is so much emptiness and loneliness, it's heartbreaking. we need community – friends and family and peers and colleagues who care about us, then we don't have to fill the emptiness with this shallow fun shit. God help us all.

  • Michael Horner

    When she opens up her mouth for the first time and I hear her vocal fry…I run for the hills and never look back!

  • infinite watersss

    if you went to bars just to fuck somebody and you use tinder just to fuck somebody… then nothing changes ultimately.

  • infinite watersss

    i guess knowing all the time that you could get laid whenever you want… could ultimately lead to a desire for more stability and deeper connections.

  • J-Boogie Brown

    That Slutever girl looks like Ari Shaffir in drag. Actually, she even talks like him. She's not his sister is she?

  • SDL

    French guy:
    Hey I'm just middle aged dirtbag baby,
    f*ck me on friday, don't say maybe.

    Seriously, a dick and proud of it, and making her feel insecure.

  • George Contreras

    More immature people who don't have a flying fuck of an idea what they truly want from life. Very,very fucking SHALLOW!

  • Jack Hartzell

    I cant wait to laugh my ass of when all the childless millennials grow old and realize there is no one there to change their diapers because they were too hedonistic to have kids

  • Robert Switzer

    Carly is my dream woman. Beautiful educated and unashamed of her sexuality. Sex positivity for the win! 💏

    Carly, if you're ever in Detroit I'd Iove to take you out! I'm 5-11, 190 lbs, sexually very positive and progressive, and highly educated!

  • Purple Flamingo

    I don’t think the French guy had a sexual double standard he just said sex is not the first thing you should give away cause he likes to build up to it. I think it’s pretty true having sex in the first date is not gonna get you a serious relationship. But if that’s not what you want then go ahead and do you.

  • David Kelly

    Those sites are funny as hell, and for all you paranoid news-watchers, there are no real dangers, because there are no real people on those sites!!! Speaking of which, that lady should change her branding to "Teasever". That gimmick might work on a few guys, but that quickly turns into, "Oh yeah, I dated her. We went to a five-star restaurant, and she suddenly had to go after we ate, but she said she'd love to go on another date sometime."

  • Abisael Villegas

    Whatever happened to meeting people in person and creating a true connection?
    Edit:10:47 His eyes don't seem right, like he's looking somewhere else😂😂😂

  • Bilbo Baggins

    I’m pretty sure among the locals the Eiffel Tower is called "La Tour Eiffel" never heard of "the Tower tha Eiffel"

  • Daniel Martinez

    What's the point of discussing a plot when you don't give the variables that were measured.

    Imagine if this was a space documentary and they put up an image of a straight line, with the only label on the image describing it as, "the distance from the Earth to the Moon". How do you even discuss that?

    You can't even give the benefit of the doubt that statistics is being misused when people decide that variables used to make a plot are irrelevant.

    Apparantly their audience wants to be told what to think, because they can't even be bothered to litteraly spend less time than it takes to go to the restroom to type a few factors.

    I don't even know why I clicked.

  • Victor Da Silva

    Your stupid ass liberated woman bullshit will ensure you will need dating apps for the rest of your miserable life.

  • Ayixlia Merrets

    I rather meet guys through friends, work, stores, malls you know where it's safe and I can get to actually talk and touch him.

  • Saffron Foxglove

    "She has been doing online dating since 1994, so for 20 years". I think perhaps the journalist might do better in dating if she was a bit brighter? Like can do simple math?

  • Halv Gud

    Thank you technology! Since I got Tinder Badoo and Ok Cupid on my phone I get laid with a few different girls every week! THANK YOU!

  • Carmen Stewart

    Next video should be dating/sex apps and the connection to the heightened STD outbreaks amongst this generation's youth….🤔 It would be interesting.

  • Angelique Campbell

    Man half these apps are used for Sex, shit before I got married that’s what I used it for when I was being to lazy to go out and get it! 🤣🤣🤣 I only speak truth!

  • Jeffrey Ohler

    On the idea of no-dating apps. The freindzone app if you will.

    Nice idea but wouldn't end up working as intended. The 1st problem would be filtering out people who are looking for a no strings attached relationship or a more than friends relationship period.

    There have been apps made to focus on just being friends yet the problem is that people don't use it for that. You can make a utensil with the inent of it being used as an eating aid,yet the moment it's used to stab someone it is transformed from being a fork to being a weapon! Even the meet up app has fallen prey to this.

    Beyond that there is an entirely different issue to deal with. Actually meeting up and hanging out in person. There are plenty of ways to make friends. You could just go out to a bar/club,library,conventions,fairs and all other sorts of public events/locales to meet people and make friends.

    So you see the real issue here isnt a lack of avenues for people to become introduced and acquainted. It is getting them to commune and stay in contact with each other once they have already met.

    Hell just take facebook for example. How many facebook 'friends' do you have? Now out of all of those how many do you actually talk to on a regular basis? More importantly how many of them do you physically(in person contact) hang out with frequently?

    I suppose it would depend on your definition of friend as well. Some people believe that just because they talk to someone all the time on fb that they are friends. Me,not so much.

    Then again I am 35 and grew up in the 90's while the world was initiating it's digital transformation. So I suppose you can say I have an oldschool view on the matter.

    I don't see how me and you can be friends if I have never even had the opportunity to shake your hand.

    Furthermore friends to me are people who do more than just talk to each other.

    In my case I am not a very talkative person. For example I could be at my best friends(20+ years) house for 10 hours straight and we may have only spent a total of 30 minutes actually speaking to one another. So for many the question is begging to be asked…"Why/How are you 2 friends let alone 'best' friends?'.

    Well there is no single answer yet the most crucially important one is that both me and him have,at some point and on our own times, have thoroughly contemplated just what it is we want out of a friendship. Therefore what is a friend.

    For many I feel as though when they say 'I need to make friends',new or not, then they are deceiving themselves as their course of actions will not be appropriate to what it is they actually want. What most people should be saying is 'I need to meet some people to talk to.'!

    For I'm a very observant person and have concluded that most want someone to converse with about anything and can do this all day. Since this used to be reserved for boyfriend/girlfriends and cheating has grown rampant it has become something people search for in just regular friends.

    That is to me the fundamental problem. People not understanding and defining what a friend and friendship is to themselves. What it is they want out of that?

    Along with this it is important to understand one major factor that comes in to play. Social archetypes! Fundamentally there's 2 types. Extroverts and Introverts of which I'm the latter. As a note my fellow Introverts will appreciate I'll add that being introverted doesn't mean that they're anti-social!

    Personally I've come to resent that distinction. Anti-social suggests that I don't or dislike people. Not accurate at all. I can only be around people for so long before I need my solitude. You see I am Clark Kent. Eventually Superman needs to return to his fortress of Solitude to clear his head and reorient himself! 😉

    Finally I'll say that other than defining what a friend is and understanding and determining the archetype of potentialial friends, that patience is required for a friendship.

    Time has a lot to do with why me and my best friend are such. Time has revealed that no matter what happens we'll always be there for eachother if asked or if it is apparent that such action is required. It also helps to take the 'time' to learn as much as possible about said person and I don't know…maybe even "CARE" about them!

    P.s. I just read this comment and haven't actually watched this video yet. So if I'm reiterating something touched on in the video then my bad. Lol 😆

  • Jeffrey Ohler

    Good choice of subject matter. Kudos to Vice. Watching this video brings to mind many interesting thoughts.

    A problem of human relations has come to mind that applies here. One unique to digital technologies.

    We must realize that there are generations born now who,for the most part have learned to communicate through the computers and smartphones.

    Meaning a major shift has occurred in humanity. We know longer speak to each other as much as we text eachother. So it is to me only natural that haman anatomy is adapting.

    Naturally we should expect to see problems of communicating vocally. The problem lies with the fact that computers were designed and built to be controlled and commanded by text.

    Now that we are designing voice recognition software we need someone to redesign the computer so that it's primary imputting interface is Voice Commanded.

    Although this is only half of the problem. Ofcourse we'd need this hunk of junk were speaking to to not only understand what we are saying and provide an accurate responsive action,yet we'd also at times need it to speak back to us. Wed need to have full blown conversations with it.

    This is crucial. Synapses are formed in the brain when we are young that can be hard to change later on in life.

    Consider a road and highway network that has been built around a town. Now consider this town is growing and adapting. It is much harder to cut out the existing roads and replace them than it is to re-route and add to them!

    Really what's needed is what has already been invented in it's primordial form,and is a double edged sword. It is called a Human Computer Brain Interface(wireless now too).

    That way instead of us wasting time and energy typing or texting what we want to say, we'll just simply think it. Awesome right!!

    Yet I said it's a double edged sword for a reason. Many of you may have already been thinking about your privacy and you damn well should be. Imagine your very brains being able to be subjected to things such as hacking. Manchurian Citizenry comes to mind for me! No Buenos.

  • Jeffrey Ohler

    14:02 that makes no sense. I think people go to apps to narrow it down. So they wouldn't feel safer in numbers.

    If that were the case they'd go to a bar or some other public venue.

  • CrazyWarriorCatLady

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that the reason divorce rates declined was due to the fact that fewer people are getting married.

  • XtremeZone

    Gay guys: "We got together, had food and had sex and then slept together…. but it's not even about sex." Yeah ok moron…. it was about nothing BUT SEX! Homosexuality is about nothing but sex…

  • Matthew Wells

    Vice you are dumb “like “wicked dumb , a show about a whore who should be on back page requesting specific fucking requirements and truly believes her only worth is sex trying to pretend kinda that’s not all it’s about. More interesting show is her with a therapist trying to figure out why she feels the only satisfying and empowering senses she gets is from pretending like she is not being used if she acts like that’s what she is all about anyways . OR get a slutty chick that is actually hot and refilm this episode . Side note she looks like she smells like cat urine.

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